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2011-02-08 13-53-35

A thread in LTR got me wondering So this lady asks if her boy friend who engages in a D/s dynamic is "ok" basiy when he puts her in a position where he says "I can kill you, are you scared?". So a bunch of people rang in on it. I would pose the same question to here, how would you answer? I will make posts after this, will be the original link to the thread in general, but then this on I will post next is a response I think warrants discussion. Do you think the opinion of D/s is correct? (I would love to see responses posted in LTR about this.)
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2011-02-09 1-51-18-

First convo piece Honey, no normal decent person EVER feigns < LaughingPrimate > 03/03 01:26:13 strangling someone, or makes death threats, tells you he could kill you, or puts fear into someone that he might kill you, or fantasizes that he could kill you. This is some very sick sh*t. Seriously. No normal person gets his jollies by seeing fear in the eyes of another. No normal person fantasizes killing another by ligature or manual strangulation. During sex or otherwise. Seriously. These are the kinds of games Ted Bundy played before he started his killing spree. So did the Green River Killer and other serial killers of women. Come on, honey, think about it. Do you think it is normal for someone to achieve or sustain sexual arousal by threatening homicide??? The very thought should give you the creeps. If you had half a brain, you would know how sick this was and you would get away from this creep while you still have a life. Since you remain with this man and do not seem to understand the danger you are in, please update your Last Will and Testament and let your parents know your wishes for disposing of your remains. Let them know this guy's details so that cops will know who to go after when you turn up missing or dismembered in a shallow grave. Your being freaked out is your own intelligence, brains, body, mind and survival instinct kicking in and telling you to get away from this sick sh*t. Why do you not have the innate intelligece to listen to what your body's intelligence is telling you? I spent years working in the court system and saw a lot. Women who came to court services year complaining about this kind of sh*t showed up the next year on a slab in the medical examiner's office, dead as homicide victims the next year.
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2011-02-09 18-59-15

Second convo (where it counts) Plus the link to the original thread: (This is a continuation of the same response, it wouldnt all fit in the same 2400 post).) Despite the twisted ideas porn has given men, so-ed dominant/submission is not healthy sexuality. Healthy sexuality is based on true equality and respect and healthy wholesome love and lust --- it does not get twisted up with pain and whips and slavery and murder fantasies. Sorry, but it just doesn't. Dominance and submission are the ideologies of a Stalin or a Hitler. People who pursue these activities are working out their own pathologies. Why are you so desperate to be with a man that you will put up with death threats? Enjoy your short life. Original link to Top thread of this line:
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2011-02-10 9-48-37-

Okay, That I agree with.. but for the poster "laughing primate"? The whole and "Dominance and submission are the ideologies of a Stalin or a Hitler. People who pursue these activities are working out their own pathologies."? Anyone? (I just got a , I have to step out. sorry everyone, but I will read when I get back in a few!)
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2011-02-11 1-21-41-

What is living but working out pathologies?
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    2011-02-11 2-50-58-

    i think and this doesnt mean anything, but the person saying everyone in a dom sub relationship is pathological and insnae, and every sub or slave or bottom will end up dead because of homicide is close minded extrreme conservative bullshit. Ther eis kink there is vanilla and there is fucking ridiculous and this poster is step past ridiculous. then again that is just my opinion.
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    2011-02-11 9-48-52-

    It's a continuim much like our sexual preferences hetro <---> homo and everything in between. Can't put people in a box with a label. Unless that's you personal kink, of course.
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    2011-02-11 10-46-17

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    2011-02-11 12-13-39

    Sure if you like to a mild degree I can agree but same can be said for any maso and sado acts.
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    2011-02-11 15-43-48

    Wow, this is a heavy one I think the replyer has some good points about the boyfriend being a potentially dangerous person. I think threatening to kill a person is beyond kink. However they have a rather negative view about all power play, D/s. I think many people (all of us) can have kink and pain as part of a healthy relationship and lifestyle expression. Some people, of course, can't handle it and don't know when to draw the line. As to just getting out of the situation? I would rather see them get some counseling and find a way to deal with the situation more constructivly rather then send him down the road to find another potential victim.
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    2011-02-12 8-08-48-

    Agreed^^^ this doesn't sound healthy at all. Dangerous even. Techniy speaking we all have the ability to comit a murder but to regail in that ability is just not right. I say GET OUT!!
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    2011-02-12 9-54-18-

    oops arrows ended up in the wrong place I have no problem with the D/s relationship but the killing thing crosses way over the line.
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    2011-03-26 0-41-11-

    It so depends on the person I know people that could ask that in a scene, but could never hurt another nonconsensualy. I also know people that do not kill only because they do not care to deal with the possible consquences.
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    2011-07-31 12-40-21

    this would be my answer it could either be totally fucked up or totally hot. i guess the people getting automatiy inflamed are reading the statement a specific way.
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    2011-12-17 20-03-04

    I, as the bottom, am often aware of how vulnerable I am in a scene. I have never been told "I could kill you right now"...but the message has been made (through actions and behaviors) and I have often thought it as well. Have I ever feared it really? No, I trust who I play with...but the thought is often in the back of my mind.
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    2012-07-25 19-59-44

    its complicated there are people who have snuff fantasies as we all should know. Maybe he was trying to get a little of the fantasy while not exactly hurting the person. they should have discussed the way things would work. but in bing dominated or a slave i would expect them to understand that their master of dom , having complete control over their life, could kill them anytime. Its the love and trust that keeps the relationship safe and continueing. If she was uncomfortable with it she should talk to him ask and see if it was jsut a fantasy he was trying to live out as safe as possible. Personal experiences tell me my girllovers to be strangled. not to the point of actually being harmful but she gets turned on by it. the moment she looks uncomfortable or gives me any indication she wants her neck free i make sure it is d during the strangling times i give x% of my attention to her face so it is safe.
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