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bertelsen

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2011-02-08 16-37-44

A couple thoughts... I love thinking about online communities, and communication, and words... and what we glean from all this fo-ing. Honestly, I'm starting to get a little concerned that some of us on the fo may be getting too quick to "troll." It's sometimes hard to tell for absolute sure who is a troll and who is not. Some are pretty obvious, others are more subtle. (For example, I'm pretty sure fun_gal is a troll - and I don't think that lazybitch is. And I could be totally wrong.) And I don't think new people realize that by innocently engaging a troll, there's a good chance their posts will be swept away to the Isle along with the trollery. Someone coming in cold to the forums wouldn't know any of this. I like that people keep an eye on the place, and I like our general level of discourse and sense of fun. I like that we have a little bit of a guardian mentality. But I'd be sad if it's evil twin took over. I'm concerned we're becoming reactionary and exclusive to the point of shutting people out who have every right to be here. Curious to hear what others are thinking.
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2011-02-09 9-14-03-

I think someone who registers the handle lazybitch is at least trying to be inflammatory, if not an outright troll.
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  • dwight

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    2011-02-09 15-50-38

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  • theilen

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    2011-02-10 8-58-10-

    if lazybitch is inflammatory then what is Ilike2licklips (or whatever it was) and hornyfemale4u (again, whatever, i forget the actual names)?? those came in here flaming, INflaming and all defensive about it to boot. k, thats my 2c...back to work now....
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  • milbrath

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    2011-02-11 0-22-20-

    I also think that a newbie's choice of handle does a lot to color our perceptions of them. I haven't been here enough lately to be able to say whether I think lazybitch is a troll, but the handle does nothing to dispel that impression. fun_gal, however, is certainly a troll in my book. Unfortunately, our quickness to 83188 might be doing newbies a disservice in more than way since, by 83188ging posts by trolls, we remove the most heinous posts from the trolls' posting histories, and newcomers have no way of knowing that the people they're conversing with are known trolls. I think that this unwitting association with trolls is how many newcomers get tagged as trolls themselves. Sorry if the preceding post rambles, but it is waaaaay past my bedtime.
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    2011-02-11 15-04-26

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    Dyann

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    2011-02-11 20-49-26

    I agree I think most trolls won't stick around long, as most of their interests aren't topics that we stick with long (or at all). I will admit that I do enjoy watching ODTM make mincemeat of most of them.
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  • pursell

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    2011-02-12 3-06-45-

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    prutzman

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    2011-02-12 22-29-42

    yeah, there are so many trolls who prey on this forum from the joke forum & elsewhere. *cough* I am super careful, perhaps overly careful, but I know woman who has gone thru literally dozens of handles in an effort to trick people on this forum. Each has been outted in turn & it is a hoot to see. But I will continue to be super careful.
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    chawla

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    2011-04-05 12-21-47

    I try to give posters time to figure things out. This wasn't Lazybitch's first fo interaction. If she decides she wants to be here, time will tell if she is a troll or not. Her posts about ing in sick reveal she is pretty thick skinned. When I first started posting only the other newbies responded or interacted with me. I did feel like an outsider for a bit of time. But as with any group must make their own way.
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    trombly

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    2011-08-22 0-57-19-

    Glad you posted this and agree to some extent. I guess I have been in online communities of a variety of types so long that trollish behavior and griefer mentality stick out like a sore thumb. I do concede that someone *may* accidentally display this sort of behavior by ill chosen handle or topic, but in my experience it's just delayed the inevitable outing of someone will ill intent. When more than person sees this behavior I see nothing wrong with pointing it out, wisdom of the crowd and all. I also see no problem in others countering the possibility of error. I suppose it'll all get sorted in the wash.
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    2012-01-13 12-57-48

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  • rainbolt

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    2012-03-07 11-01-06

    fun_gal IS a troll,x% I've noticed that whenever I've seen lazybitch post(only a couple of days),fun_gal pops up. Also,the last time we had a spate of trolling,ALL the trolls had smart ass photos in their profiles. As does lazybitch. Maybe just coincidence. thing some of you may be able to enlighten me about - exactly why does Sculp get negged and ed every time? Sculp certainly isn't of the regular trolls that come in as far as I'm aware unless it's a handle of them has used to try to infiltrate
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    andie

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    2012-11-26 22-38-23

    what exactly is the definition of a troll im sure everyhas a diff. levels of trolls......simply annoying, to total absurdity...... and it does seem to be that a few people are pretty quick to jump to conclusions, and make assumptions by just reading a handle........
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    soltysiak

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    Agree about fun_gal but hmmm, I briefly had the exact same picture on my profile that lazybitch now has on hers, back in the days of yore when I fist discovered "I Can Haz Cheeseburger." I think that sometimes trolls flock together - but I also know that trolls will sometimes follow a regular poster, for "fun" and harassment. Sculp is a wonder. I'm loathe to give her any more ink, but I go back and forth (troll, not-troll) on Sculp. I ended up thinking she's just someone who digs herself a hole every single time she posts. Honestly I negged her some, which is totally anyone's right when they disagree with a post- but for my part, I only ed her when she got abusive, or had a running free-for-all grab-ass with a couple of bona fide trolls. Thanks for humoring me, every This all just made me think. Sometimes it's so obvious who is a troll - and sometimes, for me anyway, it's not.
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  • wiitala

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    there are intentional trolls and de facto trolls. Some borderline personality disorders cannot help but be disruptive, annoying trolls even if their intent is to have "normal" interactions. While I feel some pity for these people (very little pity actually) and understand that in some feeble manner they are trying to fit in, I think that they do so much damage to the atmosphere of the forum that they are worse ultimately than the intentional trolls. I understand that some here view this forum as a "healing garden," but I don't think that it is (or can ever be) a therapeutic milieu for helping people with personality disorders modify their ineffective coping mechanisms.
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  • messer

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    2015-07-07 18-58-48

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    lazybitch is on my radar because of the mention of the cup (and I don't mean menstrual cup). Most women I know, gay or not, either haven't heard of it or by no means would *ever* perpetuate it. DO NOTIT, you have been warned. It is vile and foul the same way that other terms I cant even name because they are blocked strings onare. I don't think it is good though, to post why we think what we think on a regular basis, since they will just alter their behavior.
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