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2011-02-08 17-05-57

Hero dog! CALVERT, Md. - Toby, a 2-year-old golden retriever, saw his owner choking on a piece of fruit and began jumping up and down on the woman's chest. The dog's owner believes the dog was trying to perform the Heimlich maneuver and saved her life.
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2011-02-09 10-20-15

the dog was probably just excited I adore dogs but it is unlikely it knows the heimlich maneuver. Where would a dog have picked up familiarity with the heimlich maneuver unless specially trained? People are crazy with regards their pets, myself included.
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2011-02-09 18-15-33

hate to say this, because i love hero dogs but, i'm not sure the woman knows the heimlich maneuver because it's not pounding on the chest, you have to get under from beneath the ribs and push up. but, hey, the dog i'm sure was trying to help his mom in distress!
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    2011-02-10 9-18-55-

    random tidbit of 1st aid info they're now teaching basic first aiders to do chest compressions (a la cpr) for unconscious choking victims rather than doing abdominal thrusts (heimlich) since the chances of cardiac arrest are rather high. now back to our regularly scheduled programming...
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    2011-02-10 19-13-24

    ok, explain that to me, i've never heard that if someone's heart is still beating but, they're not breathing you need to clear the air passage to get oxygen to the brain. i'm not being beligerent i just don't get it. i actually just had my cert. renewed and as far as i understand you don't do cpr if someone still has a heart beat. and, if you don't remove the obstruction and get oxygen to the brain it will die.
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    2011-02-11 11-27-42

    the premise is killing 2 birds with stone the chest compressions also compress the diaphragm, which will expel the foreign object, but they also take care of getting enough blood flow around the body should the heart stop beating. remember, chest compressions are not meant to re-start the heart, they're just there to keep the blood flow at a certain rate before an AED or paramedic with drogas arrives. the american heart association made protocol changes that the red cross have adopted because too much time was spent by novices trying to locate and understand the pulse. as a result the number of compressions per cpr rotation have increased and the change that i mentioned before about the unconscious choking victim was made. these of course are training protocols. basiy, my points are that the protocol changed and also that chest compressions are successful in expelling foreign bodies.
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    2011-02-11 23-03-12

    could happen actually they say if you are alone and are choking on something, you are to throw yourself up against a counter top or edge of a chair so that it hits the area where a person would be doing a heimlich manuever.
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    2011-02-12 12-59-34

    you still have to get the corner or edge below the center of the ribs and thrust upwards very different than pounding on the chest which will further lodge a stuck object. that's why you should never pound someone on the back if they're choking. hey- i'm sure the dog was doing his best!
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    2011-02-12 14-23-48

    actually... the back pounding is part of the new protocol for conscious choking victims along with the abdominal thrusts. furthermore, standard protocol for choking babies is and always has been chest compressions and back slaps. this has always been sufficient for dislodging foreign bodies. it's a complete fallacy to say that chest compressions and back slaps are not helpful in dislodging a foreign body. maybe you should take a cpr class to get yourself updated. it's a really good idea to have that basic knowledge - especially around !
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    2011-02-20 0-50-19-

    update on cpr class statement i just read that you got your cert renewed. by whom? both aha and arc have changed their protocol as of 2005. here's their manual: note that chest thrusts are only used by professional rescuers and all basic first aiders are told to do 30 chest compressions.
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    2011-03-04 6-56-08-

    hey, chill babies are slapped upside down, never an adult right side up. protocols change every year and i've been cerified for 20 years through the red cross and the aha. i believe what just changed was the 'recovery breaths' during cpr while doing cpr. i looked it up on all the websites. you can always do the heimlich on unconscious victims. i can possibly see doing cpr to try to disslodge and keep the blood flowing, but this is radiy different than back slapping a choking victim which any certifier will tell you will further lodge an obstructed object. i hope we can discuss this, it is great to refresh, without hostility-it's all good to know.
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    2011-04-18 10-29-29

    sorry for the blazing guns but you really should follow that link and look in your new book. there are back blows given to conscious adults now. again, sorry for being rather edgy. i've been fighting a cabinet today and i'm so far not the winning!
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